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Ukraine crisis. News in Brief. Tuesday 10 November [Ukrainian sources]
Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:21 am
TUESDAY
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News -
Russian forces - terrorists - attacked Ukrainians 33 times yesterday.
More and more attacks again. Was 8 or 9 last week. Then 20, and now 33.
Not sure if true. Talk that Rada may try to pass visa-free legislation again. Failed last time round. (anti-gay nutters; populists)
Update - 4 soldiers injured yesterday
Update - visa-free legislation i.e. anti-discrimination law failed to pass again. 207 votes, I understand.
Samopomish - only 8/26 in favour. Liashko party, only 1 vote, Opposition block, 0 votes.. Must be others also. Idiots. Deputies have diplomatic passports - can travel anywhere.
Ukrainians still live in the dark ages. Thanks to their filthy-rich, selfish, self-centred, greedy, thieving scumball deputies.
Lviv based Samopomich combine with the ex-Regions from Donetsk to block European legislation! No wonder Shakhtar Donetsk feel at home in Lviv!!!
Weather -
A warm night. Normal for this time of year would be 2 or 3. But it was +8!
Another rainy day ahead, however. Not sure if I prefer warmer with rain, or cooler but sunshine.
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News -
Russian forces - terrorists - attacked Ukrainians 33 times yesterday.
More and more attacks again. Was 8 or 9 last week. Then 20, and now 33.
Not sure if true. Talk that Rada may try to pass visa-free legislation again. Failed last time round. (anti-gay nutters; populists)
Update - 4 soldiers injured yesterday
Update - visa-free legislation i.e. anti-discrimination law failed to pass again. 207 votes, I understand.
Samopomish - only 8/26 in favour. Liashko party, only 1 vote, Opposition block, 0 votes.. Must be others also. Idiots. Deputies have diplomatic passports - can travel anywhere.
Ukrainians still live in the dark ages. Thanks to their filthy-rich, selfish, self-centred, greedy, thieving scumball deputies.
Lviv based Samopomich combine with the ex-Regions from Donetsk to block European legislation! No wonder Shakhtar Donetsk feel at home in Lviv!!!
Weather -
A warm night. Normal for this time of year would be 2 or 3. But it was +8!
Another rainy day ahead, however. Not sure if I prefer warmer with rain, or cooler but sunshine.
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33 times Terrorists opened fire in the direction of Ukrainian military position - ATO headquarters (UNN)
Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:25 am
http://www.unn.com.ua/uk/news/1518662-teroristi-33-razi-vidkrivali-vogon-v-bik-pozitsiy-ukrayinskikh-viyskovikh-shtab-ato
"In Donetsk direction they grenade launchers, heavy machine guns and small arms fired 11 times at Pisky, 7 times Opitnoe, 4 times opened fire on Mar'yintsi, 3 times - on Avdiyivka, 3 times - on Krasnohorivtsi. With small arms fired toward Nevelskoi and Kamyanki, and with arms BMP-2 and anti-aircraft installations Verhnotoretskomu "- said in a statement.
In addition, the Artemivsk direction contrary to the agreements Minsk, Russian-terrorist mercenaries opened fire with two 120 mm mortars on Popasnaya and Boguslawska.
"Also, terrorists four times grenades were aimed fire on the Ukrainian military near Novgorod and Marinka, and the direction in Mariupol Shyrokynomu applied not only rocket launchers and small arms, but also prohibited agreements Minsk 82 mm mortars," - said the headquarters of ATO .
It is reported that after 01.45 the night in the zone of ATO was quiet.
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Putin has clearly given the go-ahead for the war to start again. It was relatively quiet. I would think he is seeing at what point the west will react again.
Nothing about this upsurge in fighting in the western press to date.
"In Donetsk direction they grenade launchers, heavy machine guns and small arms fired 11 times at Pisky, 7 times Opitnoe, 4 times opened fire on Mar'yintsi, 3 times - on Avdiyivka, 3 times - on Krasnohorivtsi. With small arms fired toward Nevelskoi and Kamyanki, and with arms BMP-2 and anti-aircraft installations Verhnotoretskomu "- said in a statement.
In addition, the Artemivsk direction contrary to the agreements Minsk, Russian-terrorist mercenaries opened fire with two 120 mm mortars on Popasnaya and Boguslawska.
"Also, terrorists four times grenades were aimed fire on the Ukrainian military near Novgorod and Marinka, and the direction in Mariupol Shyrokynomu applied not only rocket launchers and small arms, but also prohibited agreements Minsk 82 mm mortars," - said the headquarters of ATO .
It is reported that after 01.45 the night in the zone of ATO was quiet.
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Putin has clearly given the go-ahead for the war to start again. It was relatively quiet. I would think he is seeing at what point the west will react again.
Nothing about this upsurge in fighting in the western press to date.
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Block "Bloc Poroshenko" - for the conduct of elections in Mariupol on 22 or 29 November (Charter'97)
Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:31 am
https://www.charter97.org/ru/news/2015/11/10/177674/
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It will be interesting to see if the Opposition block are against this.
This always shows what Putin wants. And I understand, from the latest Norman 4 gathering, that Lavrov-Putin are trying to slow the Minsk process down.
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It will be interesting to see if the Opposition block are against this.
This always shows what Putin wants. And I understand, from the latest Norman 4 gathering, that Lavrov-Putin are trying to slow the Minsk process down.
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Ukrainian soldiers on the demarcation line: "the war continues" (Facts and Comments)
Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:38 am
http://fakty.ua/208389-razvedchiki
Last week dramatically increased the number of attacks on our positions by militants.
Last week dramatically increased the number of attacks on our positions by militants.
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Scouting reports new informaton and worsening situation in east Ukraine (Emergency news)
Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:48 am
http://nnovosti.info/news/rozvidka_dopovidaje_novi_i_neprijemni_dani_zi_shodu_ukrajini-1504.html
Ukrainian intelligence reports that arrived to Gorlovka two echelons of infantry terrorists. They do not take away guns but occupy with masks.
Three days ago Gorlovki residents reported that militants more active. Increased people with weapons.
Overall situation in the area ATO progressively worse. From early morning, terrorists fired our military positions with grenade launchers, heavy machine gun and small arms. From 8 am five times they fired on Opitnoe, Mar'yintsi, Avdiyivka and Trinity.
Ukrainian intelligence reports that arrived to Gorlovka two echelons of infantry terrorists. They do not take away guns but occupy with masks.
Three days ago Gorlovki residents reported that militants more active. Increased people with weapons.
Overall situation in the area ATO progressively worse. From early morning, terrorists fired our military positions with grenade launchers, heavy machine gun and small arms. From 8 am five times they fired on Opitnoe, Mar'yintsi, Avdiyivka and Trinity.
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On Ukraine's front lines with Toronto journalist Christian Borys [Engl]
Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:57 am
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/arts/interruptthisprogram/christian-borys-1.3306121
More recently, Christian teamed up with an independent media organization in Kiev called Hromadske to become the executive producer of The Sunday Show, the only English-language program covering events in the region.
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Ok report. But nothing new about the current situation on the front-line against Russia.
More recently, Christian teamed up with an independent media organization in Kiev called Hromadske to become the executive producer of The Sunday Show, the only English-language program covering events in the region.
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Ok report. But nothing new about the current situation on the front-line against Russia.
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The western press reporting about the doping scandal in Russian athletics
Tue Nov 10, 2015 1:10 am
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Athletics doping: Wada commission wants Russia ban
http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/34765444
Russian Athletes Part of State-Sponsored Doping Program, Report Finds
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/10/sports/russian-athletes-part-of-state-sponsored-doping-program-report-finds.html?ref=sports&_r=0
GENEVA — Members of Russia’s secret service intimidated workers at a drug-testing lab to cover up top athletes’ positive results. They impersonated lab engineers during the Winter Olympics in Sochi last year. A lab once destroyed more than 1,400 samples.
Athletes adopted false identities to avoid unexpected testing. Some paid to make doping violations disappear. Others bribed the antidoping authorities to ensure favorable results, and top sports officials routinely submitted bogus urine samples for athletes who were doping.
And the usual response from Russia - it's political.
Russian athletics officials say Wada report is ‘a political hit job’
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/nov/09/russian-athletics-wada-report-doping-political?CMP=share_btn_tw
http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/34765444
Russian Athletes Part of State-Sponsored Doping Program, Report Finds
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/10/sports/russian-athletes-part-of-state-sponsored-doping-program-report-finds.html?ref=sports&_r=0
GENEVA — Members of Russia’s secret service intimidated workers at a drug-testing lab to cover up top athletes’ positive results. They impersonated lab engineers during the Winter Olympics in Sochi last year. A lab once destroyed more than 1,400 samples.
Athletes adopted false identities to avoid unexpected testing. Some paid to make doping violations disappear. Others bribed the antidoping authorities to ensure favorable results, and top sports officials routinely submitted bogus urine samples for athletes who were doping.
And the usual response from Russia - it's political.
Russian athletics officials say Wada report is ‘a political hit job’
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/nov/09/russian-athletics-wada-report-doping-political?CMP=share_btn_tw
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Passer-by video of Petr Pavlenski setting fire to KGB doors in central Moscow
Tue Nov 10, 2015 1:30 am
Художник Петр Павленский задержан за поджог здания ФСБ на Лубянке
I understand the idea is that the Russian KGB are simply a terror organisation bringing destruction to all they touch.
Obviously Putin is part of this structure.
Video posted yesterday by Admin seems to have been blocked, hence my posting above.
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Pavlenski photo
Tue Nov 10, 2015 1:36 am
Slightly different photo at the link below in The Guardian
Russian artist arrested for setting fire to security service HQ
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/09/russian-artist-pyotr-pavlensky-sets-fire-to-fsb-hq
The video is titled The Burning Door of the Lubyanka, using the popular name for the security service headquarters. In a message released with the video, Pavlensky said: “The FSB acts using a method of unending terror and holds power over 146 million people.”
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Not surprisingly, looking through the Russian press, they never ever ask the question "why did he do it"?
In Russia you are not allowed to think.
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Can Ukraine qualify for the European Championships? UEN opinion
Tue Nov 10, 2015 3:24 am
This weekend we see the playoff games for the last places in next year's European football (soccer) championships.
Games are as follows - British time; in Ukraine 2 hours' later
THU 12 NOV 2015 - EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP QUALIFYING
Norway v Hungary 19:45
FRI 13 NOV 2015 - EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP QUALIFYING
Bos-Herze v R. of Ireland 19:45
SAT 14 NOV 2015 - EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP QUALIFYING
Ukraine v Slovenia 17:00
Sweden v Denmark 19:45
SUN 15 NOV 2015 - EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP QUALIFYING
Hungary v Norway 19:45
MON 16 NOV 2015 - EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP QUALIFYING
R. of Ireland v Bos-Herze19:45
TUE 17 NOV 2015 - EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP QUALIFYING
Denmark v Sweden 19:45
Slovenia v Ukraine 19:45
Two legs. One home, one away. Playoffs.
Personal opinion. Ukraine should be slight favorites against Slovenia.
Rules
As outlined above, the play-offs are played over two legs and there is the possibility that teams finish level after 180 minutes. The away goals rule will come into play at the end of the tie. Here’s Uefa’s ruling on it:
“The away goals rule counts at the end of the tie, with the team that scores more away goals qualifying for the finals. If that too is equal, then extra time is played. If, during extra time, both sides score the same number of goals, away goals count double (i.e. the visiting team qualifies). If no goals are scored during extra time then it goes down to penalties.”
http://www.the42.ie/euro-2016-play-off-draw-explained-2393328-Oct2015/
Rotten luck for Rotan as injury rules him out for Ukraine
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/11/09/uk-soccer-euro-ukraine-idUKKCN0SY2J120151109
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Says in 4 games Ukraine have drawn twice, and lost twice, against Slovenia.
Games are as follows - British time; in Ukraine 2 hours' later
THU 12 NOV 2015 - EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP QUALIFYING
Norway v Hungary 19:45
FRI 13 NOV 2015 - EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP QUALIFYING
Bos-Herze v R. of Ireland 19:45
SAT 14 NOV 2015 - EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP QUALIFYING
Ukraine v Slovenia 17:00
Sweden v Denmark 19:45
SUN 15 NOV 2015 - EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP QUALIFYING
Hungary v Norway 19:45
MON 16 NOV 2015 - EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP QUALIFYING
R. of Ireland v Bos-Herze19:45
TUE 17 NOV 2015 - EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP QUALIFYING
Denmark v Sweden 19:45
Slovenia v Ukraine 19:45
Two legs. One home, one away. Playoffs.
Personal opinion. Ukraine should be slight favorites against Slovenia.
Rules
As outlined above, the play-offs are played over two legs and there is the possibility that teams finish level after 180 minutes. The away goals rule will come into play at the end of the tie. Here’s Uefa’s ruling on it:
“The away goals rule counts at the end of the tie, with the team that scores more away goals qualifying for the finals. If that too is equal, then extra time is played. If, during extra time, both sides score the same number of goals, away goals count double (i.e. the visiting team qualifies). If no goals are scored during extra time then it goes down to penalties.”
http://www.the42.ie/euro-2016-play-off-draw-explained-2393328-Oct2015/
Rotten luck for Rotan as injury rules him out for Ukraine
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/11/09/uk-soccer-euro-ukraine-idUKKCN0SY2J120151109
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Says in 4 games Ukraine have drawn twice, and lost twice, against Slovenia.
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Terrorists launch more attacks overnight in Donbas, use banned 120mm mortars [Engl]
Tue Nov 10, 2015 3:55 am
http://www.unian.info/war/1178745-terrorists-launch-more-attacks-overnight-in-donbas-use-banned-120mm-mortars.html
Starting from 18:00 on November 9, the terrorists opened provocative fire on the positions of ATO forces 33 times, according to the Facebook report by the press center for the Anti-Terrorist Operation.
On Donetsk direction, militants shelled the village of Pisky 11 times, using grenade launchers, heavy machine guns and small arms, seven similar attacks on Opytne, four attacks on Maryinka, three - on Avdiyivka and another three on Krasnohorivka were recorded. The Russian proxies fired small arms, and weapons of BMP-2 infantry combat vehicles in the direction of Nevelsk and Kamenka and also fired from anti-aircraft weapons in the direction of Verhniotoretske.
The terrorists also shelled Popasna and Bohuslavske on the Artemivsk direction from 120mm mortars, banned by the Minsk agreements................
Starting from 18:00 on November 9, the terrorists opened provocative fire on the positions of ATO forces 33 times, according to the Facebook report by the press center for the Anti-Terrorist Operation.
On Donetsk direction, militants shelled the village of Pisky 11 times, using grenade launchers, heavy machine guns and small arms, seven similar attacks on Opytne, four attacks on Maryinka, three - on Avdiyivka and another three on Krasnohorivka were recorded. The Russian proxies fired small arms, and weapons of BMP-2 infantry combat vehicles in the direction of Nevelsk and Kamenka and also fired from anti-aircraft weapons in the direction of Verhniotoretske.
The terrorists also shelled Popasna and Bohuslavske on the Artemivsk direction from 120mm mortars, banned by the Minsk agreements................
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When In Doubt, Blame The West [Engl]
Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:25 am
http://khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1447115581
Russia’s chief propagandist Dmitry Kiselev blamed the West for the downing of Metrojet Flight 9268...
"The Kremlin keeps on instilling anti-Western hatred into the Russian society by feeding it with conspiracy theories, and this hatred may lead to psychological acceptance of even more aggressive approach towards the West, " Shekhovtvov wrote.
On his flagship news show Vesti Nedeli on Russian state television, the bombastic pundit suggested on November 8 that it was suspicious that after two years of U.S. air strikes against Islamic State, no American passenger planes have been targeted. And yet a Russian civilian aircraft was downed after just 40 days into Russia’s military campaign in Syria.
Kiselyov went on to suggest that the United States and its allies cut a deal with Islamic State "not to touch the civilian aircraft of the Western Coalition." He added that "dividing terrorists into good ones and bad ones is standard practice for the West. If the terrorist is targeting Russia, he’s a good terrorist and even a supporter of democracy." ...
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By Brian Whitmore. Good journalist.
Russia’s chief propagandist Dmitry Kiselev blamed the West for the downing of Metrojet Flight 9268...
"The Kremlin keeps on instilling anti-Western hatred into the Russian society by feeding it with conspiracy theories, and this hatred may lead to psychological acceptance of even more aggressive approach towards the West, " Shekhovtvov wrote.
On his flagship news show Vesti Nedeli on Russian state television, the bombastic pundit suggested on November 8 that it was suspicious that after two years of U.S. air strikes against Islamic State, no American passenger planes have been targeted. And yet a Russian civilian aircraft was downed after just 40 days into Russia’s military campaign in Syria.
Kiselyov went on to suggest that the United States and its allies cut a deal with Islamic State "not to touch the civilian aircraft of the Western Coalition." He added that "dividing terrorists into good ones and bad ones is standard practice for the West. If the terrorist is targeting Russia, he’s a good terrorist and even a supporter of democracy." ...
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By Brian Whitmore. Good journalist.
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Zakharchenko confirmed involvement of Putin's aide Vladislav Surkov in support of terrorists
Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:32 am
http://en.censor.net.ua/news/359971/zakharchenko_confirmed_involvement_of_putins_aide_vladislav_surkov_in_support_of_terrorists
"I would like to mention one person. ... he rendered assistance to us in all kinds of issues.... I would like to thank Russian president's aide Vladislav Yuryevich Surkov - the person we talk with on important and even not important issues," Zakharchenko said.
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Zakharchenko = former mine electrician turned Moscow puppet "president".
"I would like to mention one person. ... he rendered assistance to us in all kinds of issues.... I would like to thank Russian president's aide Vladislav Yuryevich Surkov - the person we talk with on important and even not important issues," Zakharchenko said.
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Zakharchenko = former mine electrician turned Moscow puppet "president".
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4 military injured in Donbass - staff
Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:05 am
http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2015/11/10/7088171/
4 injured In Donbass military - Staff
Tuesday, November 10, 2015, 13:02
For the past day conflict in Donbas injured four soldiers.
This was during the briefing said the spokesman of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine for ATO, Colonel Alexander Motuzyanyk.
"Because of the fighting, no war is not lost, but four injured," - he said.
4 injured In Donbass military - Staff
Tuesday, November 10, 2015, 13:02
For the past day conflict in Donbas injured four soldiers.
This was during the briefing said the spokesman of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine for ATO, Colonel Alexander Motuzyanyk.
"Because of the fighting, no war is not lost, but four injured," - he said.
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Militants "DNR" want to rebuild Donetsk airport
Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:09 am
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Rada in session
Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:42 am
Rada live currently on Kanal 5.
A good friend, who survived the bullets from Putin and Yanukovich on Maidan just came round.
He changed channel, and started watching a fishing program! That just says it all for me regarding the current state of politics in Ukraine.
Rada currently discussing a bill about land - selling it. They always discuss this, every month of every year, it seems to me.
Apparently voted to extend the moratorium on selling agricultural land.
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Not sure - but I think still waiting for a vote on visa-free legislation.
A good friend, who survived the bullets from Putin and Yanukovich on Maidan just came round.
He changed channel, and started watching a fishing program! That just says it all for me regarding the current state of politics in Ukraine.
Rada currently discussing a bill about land - selling it. They always discuss this, every month of every year, it seems to me.
Apparently voted to extend the moratorium on selling agricultural land.
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Not sure - but I think still waiting for a vote on visa-free legislation.
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The Rada has included anti-discrimination amendment. That failed [a few days ago]
Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:45 am
16:39
http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2015/11/10/7088208/
Parliament voted for the inclusion in the agenda of changes to labor laws that prevent discrimination based on race, religion, gender or sexual orientation.
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Reading also, on tv screen, that people are stood outside the Rada wanting a visa-free scheme.
But for the politicians this is not important. They have their diplomatic passports, so no problem for them to travel anywhere. ))
http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2015/11/10/7088208/
Parliament voted for the inclusion in the agenda of changes to labor laws that prevent discrimination based on race, religion, gender or sexual orientation.
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Reading also, on tv screen, that people are stood outside the Rada wanting a visa-free scheme.
But for the politicians this is not important. They have their diplomatic passports, so no problem for them to travel anywhere. ))
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Yatsenyuk attacked Tymoshenko: That you made "Naftogaz" bankrupt
Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:52 am
http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2015/11/10/7088214/
17:32
Yatsenyuk attacked Tymoshenko: That you have proved "Naftogaz" bankrupt
... They are bankrupt but you have driven it to bankruptcy by the gas price of $ 500, signed by you, 10 billion dollars we paid in. Because of your irresponsibility and deception, "- Yatseniuk said, referring to Yulia Tymoshenko faction which actively supports the reduction of price....
17:32
Yatsenyuk attacked Tymoshenko: That you have proved "Naftogaz" bankrupt
... They are bankrupt but you have driven it to bankruptcy by the gas price of $ 500, signed by you, 10 billion dollars we paid in. Because of your irresponsibility and deception, "- Yatseniuk said, referring to Yulia Tymoshenko faction which actively supports the reduction of price....
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MPs refused to reduce price of gas
Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:01 pm
Депутати відмовилися знижувати ренту при видобутку газу
17:32
http://www.epravda.com.ua/news/2015/11/10/566692/
Parliament failed to pass a bill "On Amendments to the Tax Code of Ukraine on cheapening the cost of gas for the population."
For a decision voted 215 people's deputies at the minimum required 226.
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I'm not sure who voted in favor, but expect it was the populists. Tymoshenko for sure - the Gas princess.
Liashko probably, along with the ex-party of Regions Yanukovich buddies in the Opposition block.
17:32
http://www.epravda.com.ua/news/2015/11/10/566692/
Parliament failed to pass a bill "On Amendments to the Tax Code of Ukraine on cheapening the cost of gas for the population."
For a decision voted 215 people's deputies at the minimum required 226.
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I'm not sure who voted in favor, but expect it was the populists. Tymoshenko for sure - the Gas princess.
Liashko probably, along with the ex-party of Regions Yanukovich buddies in the Opposition block.
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Yatsenyuk harshly criticized Tymoshenko in parliament (Hvilya)
Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:09 pm
http://hvylya.net/news/exclusive/yatsenyuk-zhestko-raskritikoval-timoshenko-v-rade.html
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Yatsenyuk Tymoshenko harshly criticized in parliament (Hvilya)
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Yatsenyuk Tymoshenko harshly criticized in parliament (Hvilya)
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Visa free travel legislation did not pass (anti-discrimination law needed)
Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:31 pm
Just watched Rada tv. The visa-free legislation did not pass.
Basically the Ukraine deputies can travel to Europe - no problem - with their diplomatic passports.
But they don't want the same for normal Ukrainians.
Apparently what bit did pass will go to the EC for discussion.. and probably will be returned in a year or six.
What did not pass - the anti-discrimination laws.
Now - if a very catholic country like Poland can pass them, surely Ukraine can? But no...
Ukraine still in the Soviet stone age when it comes to work law.
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Talking to people, they are very angry about this.
But many Deputies, including some in Samopomich clearly, love the old Soviet Union laws, and what Ukrainians to continue to live in poverty for another decade or two.
Too many Deputies don't want change. They love their own exclusive position.
Ukrainians should not be allowed to travel abroad, in their opinion.
Basically the Ukraine deputies can travel to Europe - no problem - with their diplomatic passports.
But they don't want the same for normal Ukrainians.
Apparently what bit did pass will go to the EC for discussion.. and probably will be returned in a year or six.
What did not pass - the anti-discrimination laws.
Now - if a very catholic country like Poland can pass them, surely Ukraine can? But no...
Ukraine still in the Soviet stone age when it comes to work law.
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Talking to people, they are very angry about this.
But many Deputies, including some in Samopomich clearly, love the old Soviet Union laws, and what Ukrainians to continue to live in poverty for another decade or two.
Too many Deputies don't want change. They love their own exclusive position.
Ukrainians should not be allowed to travel abroad, in their opinion.
On the Holodomor are telling the busiest place in the US capital (VIDEO)
Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:36 pm
Every day through Union Station is about 70 thousand people. Recently there began to talk about the Holodomor.
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As Ukrainian shovel helps career in the US? Video
Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:48 pm
Another interesting video, for those who understand the language, about Americans in Ukraine.
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Elections in Mariupol on 29 November
Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:54 pm
Rada tv.
If I understood correctly, Rada approved elections in Mariupol and Krasnoarmeisk on 29 November.
That's good, I think. Who people will vote for is another matter.
Probably a third for the Opposition block, a third for Poroshenko, and a third for others.
I'll try and find a news link to this info. To confirm.
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Found - confirms.
Рада назначила местные выборы в Мариуполе и Красноармейске на 29 ноября
http://elections.rbc.ua/rus/news/rada-naznachila-golosovanie-vyborah-mariupole-1446728481.html
If I understood correctly, Rada approved elections in Mariupol and Krasnoarmeisk on 29 November.
That's good, I think. Who people will vote for is another matter.
Probably a third for the Opposition block, a third for Poroshenko, and a third for others.
I'll try and find a news link to this info. To confirm.
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Found - confirms.
Рада назначила местные выборы в Мариуполе и Красноармейске на 29 ноября
http://elections.rbc.ua/rus/news/rada-naznachila-golosovanie-vyborah-mariupole-1446728481.html
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Samopomich, Liashko, and the Ex-Regions deputies stop the anti-discrimination law
Tue Nov 10, 2015 1:01 pm
http://www.eurointegration.com.ua/news/2015/11/10/7040593/
"Самопоміч", Ляшко та екс-регіонали завалили антидискримінаційний закон
Only two factions of the Verkhovna Rada - Petro Poroshenko block and the "Popular Front" - an absolute majority of deputies voted for the anti-discrimination law, required for visa-free regime between Ukraine and the EU.
This is according to electronic voting, published on the website of BP.
However Opposition bloc Radical Party Oleg Lyashko and "Renaissance" demonstrated the worst supporting - 0, 1 and 2 votes respectively from the law of each.
Not much better results in the "Selfreliance" - the law voted 8 of 26 deputies (ie, less than a third).
Somewhat more independent MPs and representatives of the "Fatherland" supported anti-discrimination law - 13 from each of the factions.
As is known, the Verkhovna Rada on Tuesday again made the agenda of anti-discrimination bill №3442, but failed to vote on it.
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Amazing.
Scumballs from Lviv, and scumballs from Donetsk combine to stop Ukraine moving forward into Europe!!
Idiots from Lviv, Liashko's idiots, and ex-Regions idiots doing the work of Vladimir Putin.
Only in Ukraine. Is more stupidity possible? Don't hold your breath.
As for Liashko - their is video of him on the net, admitting a gay relationship to the police in his younger days. And yet - his party - only one vote in favor!
Stupidity and selfishness.
Samopomich, based in Lviv have 26 deputies. 18 did not vote in favor. 18! Selfish scumballs.
Before this vote I heard that many deputies in Lviv are now in the pay of Putin. This confirms it.
"Самопоміч", Ляшко та екс-регіонали завалили антидискримінаційний закон
Only two factions of the Verkhovna Rada - Petro Poroshenko block and the "Popular Front" - an absolute majority of deputies voted for the anti-discrimination law, required for visa-free regime between Ukraine and the EU.
This is according to electronic voting, published on the website of BP.
However Opposition bloc Radical Party Oleg Lyashko and "Renaissance" demonstrated the worst supporting - 0, 1 and 2 votes respectively from the law of each.
Not much better results in the "Selfreliance" - the law voted 8 of 26 deputies (ie, less than a third).
Somewhat more independent MPs and representatives of the "Fatherland" supported anti-discrimination law - 13 from each of the factions.
As is known, the Verkhovna Rada on Tuesday again made the agenda of anti-discrimination bill №3442, but failed to vote on it.
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Amazing.
Scumballs from Lviv, and scumballs from Donetsk combine to stop Ukraine moving forward into Europe!!
Idiots from Lviv, Liashko's idiots, and ex-Regions idiots doing the work of Vladimir Putin.
Only in Ukraine. Is more stupidity possible? Don't hold your breath.
As for Liashko - their is video of him on the net, admitting a gay relationship to the police in his younger days. And yet - his party - only one vote in favor!
Stupidity and selfishness.
Samopomich, based in Lviv have 26 deputies. 18 did not vote in favor. 18! Selfish scumballs.
Before this vote I heard that many deputies in Lviv are now in the pay of Putin. This confirms it.
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Parliament closed the evening session, without passing the entire package of "visa-free laws" (Tsenzor.Net)
Tue Nov 10, 2015 1:26 pm
Enemy tanks near Kalinin mine indicate rebels’ plans to attack
Tue Nov 10, 2015 3:28 pm
The 20 camouflaged tanks near the Kalinin mine and 4 more near Marjynka revealed by Ukraine army intelligence clearly show that the enemy is preparing to attack, expert Kyrylo Sazonov writes in Facebook Nov. 10.
The concentration of tanks near the frontline has only one purpose – to attack, he says.
The expert says the following scenario is likely: the rebels fire on civilian houses in Donetsk or Horlivka, putting the blame on Ukraine army and stressing the need to defend civilians. That is when the tanks will come into action, the expert assumes.
However, the rebels do not have the potential for a massive attack against Ukraine. Therefore, they will blackmail Kyiv by launching a limited offensive, Sazonov says.
Meanwhile, the decisions on Donbas are taken in Moscow, and there is no knowing what may the Kremlin leader have in his head, the expert says.
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